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DauuX
DauuX 2024-11-19 05:07 p.m.
CASE INFORMATION**

IN THE MAYFLOWER DISTRICT COURT FOR CLARK COUNTY

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CR-0036-24 State of Mayflower v. StevenMedvedeva

Trial Type: Criminal

Judge Assigned: Chief Judge AlbertWellesley - Courtroom 101

Complaint Link: Attached below

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UPCOMING COURT DATES



PAST COURT EVENTS**

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‌11/16 - Filed...
Labels
Criminal, Felony
DauuX
DauuX 2024-11-19 05:08 p.m.
@taxi @Kezzera
taxi
taxi 2024-11-19 05:11 p.m.
Hello
taxi
taxi 2024-11-20 12:25 p.m.
@Kezzera Summons?
taxi
taxi 2024-11-21 02:08 p.m.
@Kezzera hi
Doogy
Doogy 2024-11-21 05:54 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 added. (i have no interest in this case and am just performing clerk duties)
taxitaxi
@Kezzera hi
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-11-21 06:00 p.m.
Hello
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-11-22 05:08 p.m.
@Kezzera Your Honor, defense would like to add insertreality as co-counsel
taxi
taxi 2024-11-23 08:04 a.m.
@DauuX Can you reassign this
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-11-23 02:00 p.m.
What for
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
What for
taxi
taxi 2024-11-23 07:32 p.m.
The judge isn’t doing anything
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-11-23 08:11 p.m.
true
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:54 p.m.
hello, many apologies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:54 p.m.
i am here now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:55 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 can you have Mr. reality submit a NOA and DM me directly, or tag me in filing-center directly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:55 p.m.
oh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:55 p.m.
hold on
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:55 p.m.
@shah
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:56 p.m.
i can't take this case, present conflict of interest
Kezzera
Kezzera 2024-11-25 09:56 p.m.
i will have this re-assigned
taxi
taxi 2024-11-26 11:57 a.m.
@DauuX
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-02 04:55 a.m.
I will reassign this
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-02 05:06 a.m.
Honorable Judge @acerxtro assigned
acerxtro
acerxtro 2024-12-02 11:02 a.m.
Hello COI since we are in the same department @honkhonk
acerxtro
acerxtro 2024-12-02 11:03 a.m.
I will be recusing due to that
acerxtro
acerxtro 2024-12-02 11:03 a.m.
good luck @steven2596 :🙏:
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-02 11:29 a.m.
Jesus
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-02 11:29 a.m.
How many times
acerxtroacerxtro
I will be recusing due to that
acerxtro
acerxtro 2024-12-04 01:12 a.m.
@honkhonk :🤗:
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-04 01:20 a.m.
I will reassign this
shah
shah 2024-12-06 09:31 a.m.
@honkhonk
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-06 03:31 p.m.
I shall be assigning this to Justice columbianethos
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-06 03:32 p.m.
@morale
honkhonk
honkhonk 2024-12-06 03:51 p.m.
@shah the original case channel...
morale
morale 2024-12-06 03:52 p.m.
Hello all
polyrabies
polyrabies 2024-12-06 05:25 p.m.
CLERK ANNOUNCEMENT


Good Morning/Afternoon.

Welcome to the Chambers of the Honorable Associate Justice of the Supreme Court ColumbianEthos. My name is Polyrabies, and I will be assisting as the court clerk for this case. Before we begin, I would like to provide some important information and guidance to ensure everyone is prepared for the proceedings.

Courtroom Procedures


Please address the judge as “Your Honor” at all times.
Be respectful and courteous to all parties and participants in the courtroom.
Speaking and Timing:

Speak only when recognized by the judge to avoid interruptions.
Ensure all statements are clear and concise.
Document Submission:

If you need to submit evidence or motions, follow the guidelines provided in the chamber-information channel.
Attendance:

Be punctual for all scheduled sessions. Missing or late attendance may result in delays or court action.

You must abide by the rest of the Court Room Procedures within chamber-information enacted by Associate Justice ColumbianEthos.

If you have any immediate questions or need clarification on procedural matters, feel free to reach out to me. Please note that I cannot provide legal advice, but I’m happy to assist with any administrative inquiries.

Thank you for your cooperation, and I look forward to assisting you as we proceed with this case.
morale
morale 2024-12-06 10:53 p.m.
morale
morale 2024-12-06 10:53 p.m.
@taxi Draft Criminal Summonses.
morale
morale 2024-12-07 01:35 a.m.
DISTRICT COURT OF THE STATE OF MAYFLOWER COUNTY OF CLARK STATE OF MAYFLOWER, Petitioner -against- [ROBLOX Username] (ROBLOX ID) AKA [Discord Username] (Discord ID) Defendant Case No. CR-XXXX-24 CRIMINAL SUMMONS Presiding...
morale
morale 2024-12-07 01:35 a.m.
My template.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-07 04:14 p.m.
Who's the prosecutor for this
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-07 04:15 p.m.
Defense is going to add a co-counsel to this criminal matter as well.
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Who's the prosecutor for this
taxi
taxi 2024-12-10 01:59 p.m.
I am.
moralemorale
@taxi Draft Criminal Summonses.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-10 01:59 p.m.
One moment please.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-10 02:04 p.m.
@morale Submitted with court of clerk as well.
taxitaxi
@morale Submitted with court of clerk as well.
morale
morale 2024-12-10 02:12 p.m.
Approved please have @Honoripedia serve
taxi
taxi 2024-12-10 03:01 p.m.
@morale
morale
morale 2024-12-10 03:07 p.m.
DISTRICT COURT OF THE STATE OF MAYFLOWER COUNTY OF CLARK STATE OF MAYFLOWER, Petitioner -against- [ROBLOX Username] (ROBLOX ID) AKA [Discord Username] (Discord ID) Defendant Case No. CR-XXXX-24 PROOF OF SUMMONS Presiding...
morale
morale 2024-12-10 03:07 p.m.
@taxi
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-10 07:18 p.m.
@morale Your Honor, my client wishes to be added to this channel
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-10 07:20 p.m.
@honkhonk Can you add steven to this please
morale
morale 2024-12-10 07:22 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 he's added
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-10 07:23 p.m.
thanks
moralemorale
morale
morale 2024-12-11 02:49 p.m.
Thank You
morale
morale 2024-12-11 02:49 p.m.
@taxi @AdamC_2001 @steven2596 when are we available to arraign
taxi
taxi 2024-12-11 02:51 p.m.
Saturday?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-11 03:11 p.m.
i'm abroad until the 16th of January so my availability is sporadic
morale
morale 2024-12-11 05:09 p.m.
you're a broad?
morale
morale 2024-12-11 05:09 p.m.
we call it being a women now, steven
morale
morale 2024-12-11 05:09 p.m.
please get with the times
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-11 09:28 p.m.
apologies your honour im not caught up with all this woke speech
moralemorale
@taxi @AdamC_2001 @steven2596 when are we available to arraign
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-11 09:37 p.m.
anytime
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-11 09:37 p.m.
I can do it rn
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-11 09:37 p.m.
@taxi
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:37 a.m.
I am forced to disclose a conflict of interest that has occured in this matter.
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:37 a.m.
I was mistakenly added to a group chat including the Defendant in this matter which, in part, contained material which pertained this case.
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:38 a.m.
While I did not view any material which would compromise my objectivity or impartiality in this matter, I do not feel that it would be right for me to continue given this.
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:38 a.m.
As such, I am recusing from this matter.
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:38 a.m.
@steven2596 @AdamC_2001 @taxi
morale
morale 2024-12-12 12:38 a.m.
@honkhonk Please re-assign.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-12 01:05 a.m.
Re-assigned to Hon. AwesomePIays
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 04:27 a.m.
@AdamC_2001 @taxi Hello, please state availabilities for the arraignment
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 10:32 a.m.
Let's get it arranged so we can go straight to arraignment after @Awesome has officially established probable cause
TobyToby
@AdamC_2001 @taxi Hello, please state availabilities for the arraignment
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-12 05:08 p.m.
today works
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 05:10 p.m.
@taxi ?
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
today works
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 05:10 p.m.
What time period specifically
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-12 05:17 p.m.
Anytime really
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-12 05:17 p.m.
I'm off work today
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 05:22 p.m.
Ok cool
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 05:22 p.m.
We'll wait for operators response
TobyToby
Let's get it arranged so we can go straight to arraignment after @Awesome has officially established probable cause
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-12 06:13 p.m.
Probable cause was already found by the Riding Justice and I will not disturb that finding absent good cause.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-12 06:13 p.m.
We will proceed.
moralemorale
Click to see attachment.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-12 06:19 p.m.
For reference.
AwesomeAwesome
For reference.
Toby
Toby 2024-12-12 06:33 p.m.
Oh my apologise, I had not seen that minute order
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 02:47 a.m.
I would do it today but my witness is unavailable
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 07:50 a.m.
It’s arraignment
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 07:50 a.m.
You don’t need a witness
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 08:49 a.m.
@AdamC_2001 @taxi can we do today?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 09:04 a.m.
Yes
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 09:05 a.m.
But it would have to be later this afternoon
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 09:08 a.m.
Ok
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 09:08 a.m.
@taxi ?
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 09:11 a.m.
Time?
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
You don’t need a witness
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 09:11 a.m.
Wrong chat
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 09:11 a.m.
I got confused with the case chat
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 09:11 a.m.
How does 5:15 p.m. sound?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 09:12 a.m.
Let’s push it to 6
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 09:12 a.m.
I get out of work for 5
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 09:12 a.m.
won’t be home till 5:30
TobyToby
How does 5:15 p.m. sound?
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 04:18 p.m.
Sounds good to me
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 04:24 p.m.
Great
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 04:24 p.m.
@Awesome We have a time
Toby
Toby 2024-12-13 04:24 p.m.
Are you available?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 04:40 p.m.
I said I can’t at 5:15
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 04:40 p.m.
What about 6
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
What about 6
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 05:06 p.m.
For the record, what timezone is this?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 05:30 p.m.
Est
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 05:31 p.m.
I’m driving Home
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 05:47 p.m.
Texting and driving
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 05:47 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 Is ur client going to be there
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 05:47 p.m.
Fairly certain he has to be
taxitaxi
Texting and driving
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 05:48 p.m.
yea i was texting your mother
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 05:48 p.m.
jk
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 05:48 p.m.
and yes im sure let me ask
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 05:49 p.m.
My mother would not be texting the likes of you my good sir
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 05:58 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 @Awesome get in game?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:01 p.m.
can we do it via discord
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:01 p.m.
why
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:01 p.m.
cause my client cant go in game
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:01 p.m.
ugh
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:01 p.m.
discord is just slow and boring
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:02 p.m.
unless u wanna do this another time it has to be discord
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:02 p.m.
and i dont want to delay these proceedings
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:02 p.m.
discord it is ig
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:03 p.m.
trial can be done in game since my client does not need to be there
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:03 p.m.
if it goes that far
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:04 p.m.
@Awesome ready whenever
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:08 p.m.
Are we all present?
cc: @AdamC_2001 @steven2596 / @taxi
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:08 p.m.
Yes.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:10 p.m.
For the record, the Court is now in session for the arraignment of Defendant StevenMedvedeva, in the above-captioned matter.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:11 p.m.
@taxi Please read the charges.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:13 p.m.
The defendant is charged with x1 count of Voluntary Manslaughter.

On or about the 8th of November 2024, at the Mersea Car Dealership, located in the City of Mersea, the defendant, StevenMedvedeva, in a sudden quarrel and the heat of the passion, shot and killed Dima_TopUA using a department issued Delino R21A Special.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:13 p.m.
@Awesome @AdamC_2001 @steven2596
taxitaxi
@Awesome @AdamC_2001 @steven2596
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:14 p.m.
Thank you. @steven2596 Do you understand the nature of the charges levied against you?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:15 p.m.
Yes, your honor
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:18 p.m.
Alright.

Constitutional Rights
- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
- You have the right to be informed of the charges against you.
- You have the right to confront and cross-examine any witnesses who testify against you in this case.
- You have the right to present evidence in your defense and to call witnesses on your behalf.
- You have the right not to testify in your own case, without such being held or used against you.

Do you understand these rights as I have read them to you? @steven2596
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:18 p.m.
Yes your honor
steven2596steven2596
Yes your honor
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:21 p.m.
- You also have the right to have an attorney present during any questioning or legal proceedings. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you at no cost.

I forgot to tack this on.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:21 p.m.
Do you understand this, in addition?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:22 p.m.
Yes, your honor
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:24 p.m.
Your Honor, my client is crunched for time.
steven2596steven2596
Yes, your honor
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:25 p.m.
Do you understand that, if you are convicted, you face up to twenty-five minutes of incarceration?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:25 p.m.
Yes your honor(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:25 p.m.
With that in mind, how do you plead as to COUNT 1 - Voluntary Manslaughter?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:25 p.m.
Not guilty
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:27 p.m.
Alright. The Court will thus enter accordingly. We are adjourned, unless either the prosecution or defense has any further questions.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:27 p.m.
I'm all set.
AwesomeAwesome
Alright. The Court will thus enter accordingly. We are adjourned, unless either the prosecution or defense has any further questions.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:35 p.m.
Can we get confirmation from the defendant of his voluntary absence from trials?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:36 p.m.
he's currently on vacation it depends when trial begins
taxitaxi
Can we get confirmation from the defendant of his voluntary absence from trials?
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:36 p.m.
I'm gone until the 16th of January
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
he's currently on vacation it depends when trial begins
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-13 06:36 p.m.
We will schedule around his vacation. The Court would rather the Defendant be physically present for his trial.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-13 06:37 p.m.
Sadly your honor i'm up for a nomination to the magistrate court so time on my end isnt very good either.
steven2596steven2596
I'm gone until the 16th of January
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-13 06:37 p.m.
no way of getting access to a computer until i get back home
taxi
taxi 2024-12-13 06:38 p.m.
Well this isn’t convenient
taxi
taxi 2024-12-14 09:58 a.m.
@Awesome pretrial arrangements?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-14 10:04 a.m.
Yes please
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-14 10:04 a.m.
I’ll submit my discovery later this weekend
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-14 10:04 a.m.
Since I’m going to New York
taxitaxi
@Awesome pretrial arrangements?
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-16 02:02 a.m.
The Court will publish a pre-trial schedule shortly.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-18 10:12 a.m.
When
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-18 10:15 a.m.
@Awesome
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-18 10:46 a.m.
I’m hoping to get it out sometime today. Apologies for the delay, I’ve been rather busy IRL in the run-up to Christmas.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-18 11:03 a.m.
Ok
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-18 11:03 a.m.
No worries
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-19 01:20 p.m.
PAPERLESS ORDER GOVERNING PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, barring extension for good cause or other unforeseen delay:
- (1) the pre-trial window will close Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago;
- (2) in accordance with Mayfl. D. Ct. 3(8), pre-trial motions will be due forty-eight (48) hours prior to the close of the pretrial window;
- (3) a pre-trial conference is scheduled for Monday, January 20, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago, prior to which the parties shall disclose a draft of the exhibits and witnesses, if any, that they intend to rely on;
- (4) on or before Monday, January 20, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago, the State shall disclose to the defense any undisclosed material deemed exculpatory or potentially exculpatory — that is, evidence that favors the defendant or casts doubt on the State's case — pursuant to Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963);
- The State is reminded that this obligation is continuing in nature, as per Pennsylvania v. Ritchie, 480 U.S. 39, 60 (1987), and failure to disclose Brady material in a timely manner may incur consequences, including, but not limited to, exclusion of evidence, dismissal of the information, and sanctions;
- (5) motions in limine are due seventy-two (72) hours prior to trial, with any oppositions due twenty-four (24) hours thereafter; and
- (6) trial briefs, if any, are due forty-eight (48) hours prior to trial.

/s/ AwesomePIays
Mayflower District Judge

cc: @steven2596 @AdamC_2001 / @taxi
(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
PAPERLESS ORDER GOVERNING PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, barring extension for good cause or other unforeseen delay: - (1) the pre-trial window will clo...(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-19 01:25 p.m.
For the record, these timelines revolve around the Defendant's stated absence until Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 9:00 a.m., 6 months ago.
AwesomeAwesome
For the record, these timelines revolve around the Defendant's stated absence until Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 9:00 a.m., 6 months ago.
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-19 08:21 p.m.
Just to make you aware your honor even when I am back my availability is still going to be spotty. I work 6 days in a row off for 3 then back on for 6. I've not received the dates of which I will be starting back at work.
steven2596steven2596
Just to make you aware your honor even when I am back my availability is still going to be spotty. I work 6 days in a row off for 3 then back on for 6. I've not received the dates ...
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 08:10 a.m.
The timelines are flexible; let me know once you’re aware of your schedule.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 10:58 a.m.
Surly we won’t be forced to wait a long month for the state to prepare it ls case? No? My client wants to get this over with and not take months to do like some other people unfortunately had to do
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Surly we won’t be forced to wait a long month for the state to prepare it ls case? No? My client wants to get this over with and not take months to do like some other people unfort...
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:01 p.m.
I'm sorry?

For the record, these timelines revolve around the Defendant's stated absence until Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 9:00 a.m., 6 months ago.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:02 p.m.
As I have stated prior, the Court would prefer if the Defendant was, himself, able to be present for these proceedings.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:31 p.m.
*it if
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:41 p.m.
The defendant isn’t legally required to attend and his vacation will be well over before that
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:41 p.m.
Plus I wasn’t referring to you
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:41 p.m.
I was talking to the SA
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
I was talking to the SA
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:41 p.m.
Ah, alright.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:42 p.m.
He only really needs to be here for sentencing and arraignment
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
The defendant isn’t legally required to attend and his vacation will be well over before that
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:42 p.m.
Well, not exactly; your client can waive his appearance, with the permission of the Court, but I would prefer, as I have stated prior, for him to attend the entirety of the trial itself, given this is a criminal matter.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:43 p.m.
Given my client is from England the time zone difference is a major effect especially for him since he’s in college but I understand
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:44 p.m.
At least I think he’s from England
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:44 p.m.
lol
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:44 p.m.
He’s definitely European
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
lol
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:45 p.m.
Those deadlines above are exactly that -- deadlines. If you both wish to have this hammered out before then, by all means.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-20 03:45 p.m.
The only non-deadline is a pre-trial conference, which is scheduled for Monday, January 20, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-20 03:46 p.m.
Yeah I attend to it’s just I don’t like the idea of people waiting months to have this over I have a previous client who’s still in waiting since September
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
At least I think he’s from England
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-22 07:54 p.m.
Scotland*
steven2596
steven2596 2024-12-22 07:54 p.m.
I'd rather not attend. One less person to schedule around considering how often I work
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-22 08:04 p.m.
oh mb then scotland
steven2596steven2596
Scotland*
Toby
Toby 2024-12-23 05:16 p.m.
Same
steven2596steven2596
I'd rather not attend. One less person to schedule around considering how often I work
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-24 07:37 p.m.
Hm, in that case:

AMENDED PAPERLESS ORDER GOVERNING PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, barring extension for good cause or other unforeseen delay:
- (1) Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago is struck and, in lieu thereof, Friday, January 3, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago is inserted; the pre-trial window will now close Friday, January 3, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago;
- (2) Monday, January 20, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 5 months ago is struck and, in lieu thererof, Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago is inserted; a pre-trial conference is now scheduled Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago, prior to or on which (1) the parties shall disclose a draft of the exhibits and witnesses, if any, that they intend to rely on; and (2) the prosecution shall disclose to the defense any undisclosed material deemed exculpatory or potentially exculpatory — that is, evidence that favors the defendant or casts doubt on the State's case — pursuant to Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963); and
- (3) all remaining provisions of the Court's order, which do not conflict with this amended order, remain in effect.

/s/ AwesomePIays
Mayflower District Judge

cc: @steven2596 @AdamC_2001 / @taxi
(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-24 07:42 p.m.
If there any objections concerning this amended order, please notify me promptly.
AwesomeAwesome
Hm, in that case: AMENDED PAPERLESS ORDER GOVERNING PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, barring extension for good cause or other unforeseen delay: - (1) <t...(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-26 01:12 p.m.
I'll have my discovery in later today if that's alright with the court.
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
I'll have my discovery in later today if that's alright with the court.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-26 01:17 p.m.
That’s fine.
taxi
taxi 2024-12-27 04:21 p.m.
Case being handed over to @JaroCycle
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-27 04:24 p.m.
@JaroCycle please file a Notice of Appearance.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-27 04:24 p.m.
@JaroCycle has been added.
AwesomeAwesome
@JaroCycle please file a Notice of Appearance.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-27 04:43 p.m.
Will do.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-27 05:37 p.m.
@Awesome
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:40 p.m.
@Awesome Your Honor, The defense requests the court not extend this pretrial as my client has been waiting for a long time to get this started and the failure of the State to keep an attorney on this case shouldn't be a reason to kick the right to a speedy trial out the window.
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
@Awesome Your Honor, The defense requests the court not extend this pretrial as my client has been waiting for a long time to get this started and the failure of the S...
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-27 06:40 p.m.
Has such a request been made, or is that merely anticipatory?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:41 p.m.
anticipatry if the state wishes to extend to play catch up.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:41 p.m.
anticipatory*
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:53 p.m.
DEFENSE DISCOVERY
CC: @taxi @Awesome
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:53 p.m.
@JaroCycle
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-27 06:53 p.m.
my bad
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
my bad
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-27 11:59 p.m.
Alright.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-28 05:28 a.m.
STATE'S DISCOVERY

CC: @Awesome @AdamC_2001
AwesomeAwesome
Hm, in that case: AMENDED PAPERLESS ORDER GOVERNING PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, barring extension for good cause or other unforeseen delay: - (1) <t...(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-28 01:27 p.m.
Your Honor, I request that the pre-trial conference to be schedule not on the first of january but on the second if that's alright, due to the fact that I won't be able to attend anything at all on 1st of January, and other than that the State does not wish to extend pretrial.
JaroCycleJaroCycle
Your Honor, I request that the pre-trial conference to be schedule not on the first of january but on the second if that's alright, due to the fact that I won't be able to attend a...
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:16 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 Is there an objection?
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:17 p.m.
If not, I’ll so order.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:17 p.m.
Yeah second of January is fine i'll probable be recovering from the new years eve party I'm going to
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:17 p.m.
probably
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:20 p.m.
Alright, so ordered; the pre-trial conference is now scheduled Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago.

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:21 p.m.
you mean the second
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:21 p.m.
I put the wrong date in, because I forgot to factor in the timezone. 1s
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:21 p.m.
fixed.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:21 p.m.
Okay
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:22 p.m.
I do not want to end pretrial
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:22 p.m.
I object to that
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:22 p.m.
I believe something is in the works and if it does not pan out ill inform the court.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:22 p.m.
They’re not requesting to extend pre-trial, just the conference?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:22 p.m.
Oh my bad I got ahead of myself
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2024-12-28 03:23 p.m.
I'm tryna do like 2 things at once sorry
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-28 03:23 p.m.
It’s fine. So we’ll do the pre-trial conference 1 day prior to the end of pretrial, in that case.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-28 09:54 p.m.
@JaroCycle has been added for the State
JaroCycleJaroCycle
STATE'S DISCOVERY CC: @Awesome @AdamC_2001
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-29 04:23 a.m.
And this is all discoverable material (including that which is exculpatory), to date, in the State’s possession, correct?(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
And this is all discoverable material (including that which is exculpatory), to date, in the State’s possession, correct?(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-29 04:27 a.m.
Affirm
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-29 04:28 a.m.
All of the evidence that is included in discovery was submitted with AOPC.
JaroCycleJaroCycle
Affirm
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-29 04:29 a.m.
Alright, we’ll schedule the trial date during the pre-trial conference (we’ll need to work out a time during which the parties, the Court, and the witnesses are available).
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-29 04:31 a.m.
Would the court be willing to do witness hearings on discord, or accept sworn affidavits from them?
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-29 04:31 a.m.
For the Court’s benefit, does the State or the defense plan to, at this time, file any pre-trial motions?

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-29 04:31 a.m.
Not from the State.
AwesomeAwesome
For the Court’s benefit, does the State or the defense plan to, at this time, file any pre-trial motions? cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-29 04:31 a.m.
*Plan to, as in, either now or before the deadline.
JaroCycleJaroCycle
Would the court be willing to do witness hearings on discord, or accept sworn affidavits from them?
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-29 04:37 a.m.
They'll need to be present, even if it's not all done in one session, so that the respective parties may directly/cross examine them.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2024-12-29 04:37 a.m.
Alright.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 04:20 a.m.
Are we still on for Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 1:20 p.m., 6 months ago?

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 04:52 a.m.
Affirm.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 06:30 a.m.
No….im at work i never agreed to 1:20pm
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
No….im at work i never agreed to 1:20pm
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 06:54 a.m.
You never lodged an objection with the Court? Nonetheless, I’ll adjust the time to where you’re available. Does Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 5:20 p.m., 6 months ago, work?

cc: @JaroCycle
(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:02 a.m.
Not perfect, but alright
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:13 a.m.
6 works better
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
6 works better
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:35 a.m.
Ok. @JaroCycle, what about you?(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:36 a.m.
No, cause it's midnight for me.
AwesomeAwesome
You never lodged an objection with the Court? Nonetheless, I’ll adjust the time to where you’re available. Does Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 5:20 p.m., 6 months ago, work? cc: <@35056736653239910...(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:36 a.m.
And respectfully the time presented now is 23:20 for me,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:37 a.m.
The Defense had plenty of time to object to the scheduling, as it was already agreed on 28th of December.
AwesomeAwesome
You never lodged an objection with the Court? Nonetheless, I’ll adjust the time to where you’re available. Does Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 5:20 p.m., 6 months ago, work? cc: <@35056736653239910...(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:38 a.m.
We either do it at this time, or not today at all.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:38 a.m.
I got a lot of personal stuff going on so excuse me I don’t check discord 23/7
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:39 a.m.
I get out of work today at 5pm I would still be driving home so
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:39 a.m.
take it as you will
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:42 a.m.
I can try but no guarantees
JaroCycleJaroCycle
We either do it at this time, or not today at all.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:47 a.m.
Alright, we’ll try then.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:50 a.m.
It's pre-trial conference, so I doubt it will take long,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:50 a.m.
So even if you would be late, we can wait.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 07:50 a.m.
But after 6 like I said, it's bed time for me.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:52 a.m.
How long do you think it could take
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
I can try but no guarantees
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:52 a.m.
And, counsellor, for future reference, when I set a date several days in advance, and moreover you agree to the State’s request to push such forward by a day, I expect you to either show up or timely raise an objection.(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:52 a.m.
It shouldn’t take long.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:53 a.m.
You never set a time until 4am
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:53 a.m.
How was I supposed to know when we were doing it on the 2nd
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:54 a.m.
Plus like I said I got some stuff going on that will hinder my ability to be on for a little while
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:55 a.m.
Oh now I’m just seeing it nvm
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 07:55 a.m.
I can manage should be alright
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:56 a.m.
It’s fine, but for the future please raise an objection to the date & time in advance rather than raising one mere hours beforehand.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:58 a.m.
@AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:13 p.m.
Driving home now
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:19 p.m.
Sounds great,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:19 p.m.
@Awesome Are you ready, Your Honor
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:29 p.m.
Yeah im ready
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:29 p.m.
@Awesome
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:29 p.m.
Lol
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:29 p.m.
If he isn't here this is actually gonna be hilarious
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:30 p.m.
game or discord
JaroCycleJaroCycle
If he isn't here this is actually gonna be hilarious
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:30 p.m.
whos ur expert witness btw
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:30 p.m.
whats his qualifications
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:30 p.m.
Lead investigator for MPD
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:31 p.m.
mersea police
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:31 p.m.
when my client is port
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:31 p.m.
is he even aware of the siutation
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:31 p.m.
situation
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:31 p.m.
Adam, he is the one who made the exhibit J, K pictures
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
is he even aware of the siutation
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:32 p.m.
He is
JaroCycleJaroCycle
Adam, he is the one who made the exhibit J, K pictures
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:32 p.m.
I, J *
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
when my client is port
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:33 p.m.
That's also another thing, what was port doing in Mersea :💀:
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:33 p.m.
is it still pretrial
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
i got a million things going on rn
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
is it still pretrial
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
Yea,
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
good
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
i got a million things going on rn
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
I know the pain
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
The sheer fact that we both got thrown into another case which is already in trial
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
And we both weren't present during pre-trial period
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
someone in my family died
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
so its more of a personal level
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
someone in my family died
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
Oh,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:34 p.m.
I see,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:35 p.m.
My condolences then
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:35 p.m.
ty
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:35 p.m.
hence why i wasnt on discord 24/7
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 05:35 p.m.
I think it's fair to asume Awesome ain't gonna show up
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:37 p.m.
He better
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:37 p.m.
I sped home for this
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:37 p.m.
imagine telling a real cop im late for lego court
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 05:38 p.m.
@Awesome wake up
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
imagine telling a real cop im late for lego court
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-02 06:19 p.m.
Lol
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
@Awesome wake up
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:44 p.m.
I sincerely apologize; for some reason, my alarm that I set didn’t go off.(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:48 p.m.
In light of the circumstances, we’ll just do it now, and you both can just respond whenever you’re on.(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 07:55 p.m.
@JaroCycle @AdamC_2001 As there are no outstanding motions (and all pre-trial motions were due as of 24h ago), are there any objections, at this time, to any of the witnesses planned to be called?(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:16 p.m.
I object to some evidence being called but since I had some family issues going on didnt get time to draft a motion.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:16 p.m.
But I can just orally do it if you want.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:16 p.m.
@Awesome
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 08:17 p.m.
I’d rather it be submitted in writing, but if you could provide an outline as to what you’re objecting to, that’d be helpful.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:18 p.m.
Supress evidence due to the best evidence rule, Your Honor.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 08:18 p.m.
I mean, what evidence you’re objecting to.*
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:18 p.m.
Ah,
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:18 p.m.
Exhibit G H I and K
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:19 p.m.
And Exhibit J due to relevance
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:21 p.m.
Due to the sections of evidence clearly edited and altered from the original screenshot I ask to supress such evidence.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:21 p.m.
And for J realavance due to having no standing ground for this case.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:22 p.m.
I know I'm past and I never usally miss a deadline but like I said before a family member died which was my aunt so the past few days been real whacky for my family. Sorry in advance.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:22 p.m.
usually*
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-02 08:24 p.m.
You’re good. Hm, given the contested exhibits are only screenshots (and the objections themselves are relatively straightforward), I’ll allow an oral motion to exclude such to be made, and I’ll await the State’s response.

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-02 08:25 p.m.
Thank You, Your Honor. I appreciate it I won't miss another deadline
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 07:04 a.m.
Exhibit G - Is a picture taken from the original video, simply to highlit where the defendant was at the beginning of the whole interaction that took place at mersea car delear. It is not edited, nor does put the defendant in a wrong light, it is put there to allow better analises of the whole video, which is presented in the Exhibit A. And per the best evidence, the original is in fact provided, which makes the whole objection without basis, as like I said this is only to allow better view on the situation, and the highlighting where the defendant was when the situation on Exhibit A begins.

Exhibit H - Same as Exhibit G, it only highlights the moment of the entire situation, where the defendant is, and serves to support the claim, of where the defendant was, and that he could in fact see the entire situation, before making the decisions that led to a tragic death. Like I mentioned regarding Exhibit G, the entire video is presented in Exhibit A, and exhibit H serves as a highlight to allow better presentation of facts that are already stated and accepted by both sides.

Exhibit I - This is a picture taken by the investigator, to show the view of the defendant that he has while entering the area, in which the scene presented in Exhibit A takes place. It's absurd to object to this with the best evidence rule, considering this is entire pov of the investigator, and literally is not editited nor tampered with in any way. Again, this exhibit will be backed up by the expert witness statement, and other lay witnesses, so to object to this as to best evidence has absolutely no grounds.

Exhibit K - Again this is a picture taken by the investigator, to show the possible POV of the defendant, when the situation takes place, and this is relevant to the case, as to proof whether the defendant could see the entire situation that took prior to his decision to shoot the victim, and will be further supported by witness statements.

CC: @Awesome
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:08 a.m.
It’s not an original screenshot
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:08 a.m.
It’s edited
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:08 a.m.
Previous cases in the past have denied evidence due to such violations
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:09 a.m.
And in your exhibit A shows a pink van blocking the directly angle of these alleged crimes
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:10 a.m.
So your screenshots of my clients POV is obstructed and therefore being not relevant to this case due to your investigator had no such obstruction
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:10 a.m.
Best evidence rule directly says original documents not edited ones
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
So your screenshots of my clients POV is obstructed and therefore being not relevant to this case due to your investigator had no such obstruction
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 09:12 a.m.
This didn’t make a lot of sense what I mean is my client had a pink van in the way of the situation and was blocked your investigator had no such obstruction in the way. I see no standing reason why that should be admitted as it’s clearly a different circumstance
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 10:33 a.m.
Hm… After reviewing the parties’ arguments, I’m having a hard time seeing how the best evidence rule, which only “[says] that a party seeking to prove the contents of a document must introduce the original document,” United States v. Boley, 730 F.2d 1326, 1332–33 (10th Cir. 1984), could possibly apply here, given (1) the original was introduced, and (2) it has been long held that duplicates are admissible to the same extent as originals, unless there is a reason to doubt the authenticity of the duplicates.

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:42 a.m.
If he can get the original documents
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:42 a.m.
And has then the copies are inadmissible
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:44 a.m.
See Commonwealth v. Ocasio, 434 Mass. 1, 6 (2001), where the court explained as follows: "The best evidence rule provides that, where the contents of a document are to be proved, the party must either produce the original or show a sufficient excuse for its nonproduction.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:49 a.m.
Also Federal Rules of Evidence 1002
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:52 a.m.
Also see Palmer v. Hoffman, 318 U.S. 109 (1943) US Supreme Court Held that the documents are not admissible in court if an original copy exists
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Also see Palmer v. Hoffman, 318 U.S. 109 (1943) US Supreme Court Held that the documents are not admissible in court if an original copy exists
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 10:55 a.m.
..? To the best of my knowledge, Palmer had nothing to do with the best evidence rule and, in fact, the phrase is not mentioned once throughout.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 10:55 a.m.
Where are you getting this?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
We I copied the wrong one
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
Er*
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
Yikes
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
that’s embarrassing
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
either way federal rules of evidence states such
AwesomeAwesome
Hm… After reviewing the parties’ arguments, I’m having a hard time seeing how the best evidence rule, which only “[says] that a party seeking to prove the contents of a document mu...(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 10:58 a.m.
As you stated your honor, the original is introduced and per United States v. Boley it is fine for it to be there. There is no doubt about authenticity of the duplicates as well.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:59 a.m.
You have edited marks on your evidence
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 10:59 a.m.
those red lines
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
you got the OG then I can’t complain
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
They only highlight what can be seen at the original video in Exhibit A.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
I’m nkt talking about your exhibit A
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
not
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
A is fine
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:00 a.m.
I’m referring to your screenshots
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:01 a.m.
I listed them before
AwesomeAwesome
..? To the best of my knowledge, Palmer had nothing to do with the best evidence rule and, in fact, the phrase is not mentioned once throughout.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:01 a.m.
My apologies I copied the wrong case law I’ll strike that from the record and I won’t bother again the website is used sucks
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Er*
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 11:01 a.m.
What were you trying to copy?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:01 a.m.
I used
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
I’m referring to your screenshots
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:03 a.m.
I am defending said screenshots, with the simplicty that it again highlights what it is in the original footage, they don't create any false claim, or anything like that. It's to allow better analyse of the video, and like I said in my response to your objections, they are original, they are also what was submitted in the AOPC, and will be backed up by the expert witness.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:03 a.m.
Best evidence rule cannot apply here,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:04 a.m.
Cause it literally is still the same evidence, just deeper analyze of it.
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
So your screenshots of my clients POV is obstructed and therefore being not relevant to this case due to your investigator had no such obstruction
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:06 a.m.
As for this, the picture is literally taken from a place that your client had no obstruction, and it was made on purpose to highlight that in fact he was able to see what was going on at the mersea car delear.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:07 a.m.
Respectfully, if the defense wanted to strike the evidence, there was plenty of time to do it, special circumstances of Adam's personal issues, but nonetheless this isn't straightforward.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
I have an expert that can attest to that claim he could see everything
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
and the defendant
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
Then leave it for trial period,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
Not pre-trial.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
It is good to bring it up pre trial on a evidence based objection
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:10 a.m.
that’s the point
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 11:11 a.m.
I mean, even if I were to read the rule as to bar the admission of a secondary document where the original exists (where such is being used to prove the contents, and not merely to illustrate a point), the screenshots of the video would arguably still be duplicates, which are admissible to the same extent, unless there is a reason to doubt their authenticity.(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:11 a.m.
Fair enough I’ll leave it for trial
AwesomeAwesome
I mean, even if I were to read the rule as to bar the admission of a secondary document where the original exists (where such is being used to prove the contents, and not merely to...(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:11 a.m.
And there is no reason to doubt their authenticity,
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Fair enough I’ll leave it for trial
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 11:22 a.m.
Well, motions in limine are due 72h prior to trial.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-03 11:24 a.m.
@Awesome @AdamC_2001
Since we are past pre-trial, what would your times be ideal for the trial?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:25 a.m.
I’d have to contact my witness and client
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 11:25 a.m.
To get a time their both able
AwesomeAwesome
I sincerely apologize; for some reason, my alarm that I set didn’t go off.(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-03 04:25 p.m.
We doing it today?
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
We doing it today?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 11:14 p.m.
In light of the circumstances, we’ll just do it now, and you both can just respond whenever you’re on.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-03 11:17 p.m.
With that out of the way, have the parties had sufficient time to prepare for trial? If so, what date/times would be ideal?

cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
AwesomeAwesome
With that out of the way, have the parties had sufficient time to prepare for trial? If so, what date/times would be ideal? cc: @AdamC_2001 / @JaroCycle
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-04 02:17 p.m.
My client is still on vacation overseas and won’t be able to return until the 16th of January BUT he is able to answer questions and give testimony over discord
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
My client is still on vacation overseas and won’t be able to return until the 16th of January BUT he is able to answer questions and give testimony over discord
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-05 04:47 a.m.
Hm, ok. I’ll post a trial date shortly.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 10:24 a.m.
@Awesome @AdamC_2001
Well, when are we up for trial?
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 10:24 a.m.
After 16th?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 11:42 a.m.
We can do your first half
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 11:42 a.m.
Whenever
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 11:42 a.m.
@JaroCycle
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 11:53 a.m.
I am up for this whenever the judge is available but preferably after 14
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 11:53 a.m.
Cause I have exam
JaroCycleJaroCycle
Cause I have exam
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-09 11:59 a.m.
We can do 16th or 17th.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 12:00 p.m.
16th is fine with me
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-09 12:01 p.m.
We’ll do continuous, so y’all can just respond whenever you’re available (when we’re in session, that is).
JaroCycleJaroCycle
16th is fine with me
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-09 12:01 p.m.
And @AdamC_2001?
AwesomeAwesome
We’ll do continuous, so y’all can just respond whenever you’re available (when we’re in session, that is).
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 12:02 p.m.
Alright.
AwesomeAwesome
And @AdamC_2001?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 12:05 p.m.
That’s fine as long as it’s past 6pm est
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
That’s fine as long as it’s past 6pm est
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-09 12:05 p.m.
Alright, that works.
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 03:43 p.m.
We can do the states side of the case
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-09 03:43 p.m.
And maybe our side at a different time
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 04:26 p.m.
I rather we do everything on the same time
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-09 04:26 p.m.
To keep things fair
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-10 11:53 a.m.
Then we’re unable to do it on the 16th as my client informed me he’s gonna be on a plane home back to his country and it’s a long flight
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-10 11:53 a.m.
so he will be sleeping
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-10 11:53 a.m.
maybe the 18th it’s a Saturday
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-01-10 11:59 a.m.
@JaroCycle
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-10 11:59 a.m.
Sure
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
maybe the 18th it’s a Saturday
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-11 12:38 a.m.
Ok, we can do the 18th.
Toby
Toby 2025-01-13 04:59 p.m.
CLERICAL NOTICE
@Deleted User has been added and is asked to file a Notice of Appearance.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 05:02 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 05:03 p.m.
Filed in the appropriate channel as well
Toby
Toby 2025-01-13 05:03 p.m.
Thank you
AwesomeAwesome
Ok, we can do the 18th.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 05:04 p.m.
Just confirming, this will be a virtual trial, correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 05:32 p.m.
@Toby Mr Clerk, just confirming, is the Discovery filing listed in the trello card the updated doc? The one not containing the struck exhibits? Just trying to make sure I’m operating off the current stuff
Deleted UserDeleted User
@Toby Mr Clerk, just confirming, is the Discovery filing listed in the trello card the updated doc? The one not containing the struck exhibits? Just trying to make...
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 05:33 p.m.
Disregard this, the former attorney on this case is a retard and told me incorrect information
Toby
Toby 2025-01-13 05:33 p.m.
No worries
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:39 p.m.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Filed in the appropriate channel as well
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-13 05:53 p.m.
Counsel of Record.. for the State?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-13 05:53 p.m.
Please re-file, assuming you are substituting for @AdamC_2001; also, the court is incorrect.(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
Counsel of Record.. for the State?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:01 p.m.
It’s a clerical error, should fall under an exception rule I think. But if you would like I’ll re file after dinner
Deleted UserDeleted User
It’s a clerical error, should fall under an exception rule I think. But if you would like I’ll re file after dinner
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-13 06:07 p.m.
If it were just that, it’d be fine, but it also lists the wrong court.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-13 06:10 p.m.
Lmfao.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:29 p.m.
Yalllllll
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:30 p.m.
Yall know I just pulled a template
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:30 p.m.
I’ll re file later
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:30 p.m.
I’ll blame my college legal intern who I only hired because of their oooks
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 06:30 p.m.
Looks
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-13 09:59 p.m.
i present, the amended document! god bless clark
Deleted UserDeleted User
Just confirming, this will be a virtual trial, correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-15 01:03 p.m.
@Awesome
Deleted UserDeleted User
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-15 04:58 p.m.
Affirm. Apologies for the delay in responding; I recently got a new monitor, and have been getting used to it.
AwesomeAwesome
Affirm. Apologies for the delay in responding; I recently got a new monitor, and have been getting used to it.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-15 05:15 p.m.
Sounds good. I want to make the court aware that my client is unable to return to the country on the 18th. He was diagnosed with RSV and cannot travel. So, I’d like to push back our trial date. The earliest I can do is the 25th. My client has a work schedule, so weekends are preferable.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Sounds good. I want to make the court aware that my client is unable to return to the country on the 18th. He was diagnosed with RSV and cannot travel. So, I’d like to push back ou...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-15 05:20 p.m.
Alright, we can do the 25th, but we need to get this show on the road.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-15 05:21 p.m.
*soon.
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, we can do the 25th, but we need to get this show on the road.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-15 05:21 p.m.
I agree. I just got notified 20 minutes ago about his diagnosis.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-20 08:15 a.m.
@Deleted User Are you and your client still good for the 25th?
AwesomeAwesome
@Deleted User Are you and your client still good for the 25th?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 09:42 a.m.
To my knowledge yes
Deleted UserDeleted User
To my knowledge yes
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-20 07:59 p.m.
Alright, ideally, you’ll give at least forty-eight (48) hours of notice if that changes, absent exigent circumstances.
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, ideally, you’ll give at least forty-eight (48) hours of notice if that changes, absent exigent circumstances.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 08:12 p.m.
Of course. My understanding is that he is currently in transit to return to the US
steven2596
steven2596 2025-01-22 05:22 a.m.
to the uk*
steven2596
steven2596 2025-01-22 05:22 a.m.
unfortunately
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-23 11:17 a.m.
@Deleted User Are we still set for the 25th?
AwesomeAwesome
@Deleted User Are we still set for the 25th?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-23 11:58 a.m.
Yes, what time do we want to start
AwesomeAwesome
@Deleted User Are we still set for the 25th?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 03:12 a.m.
@JaroCycle
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yes, what time do we want to start
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 03:12 a.m.
I’ll wait to make sure Jaro is also available.
AwesomeAwesome
@JaroCycle
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 04:29 a.m.
Yes,
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 11:21 a.m.
@JaroCycle @Deleted User Does Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 4:00 p.m. (4 PM EST) work?(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
@JaroCycle @Deleted User Does Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 4:00 p.m. (4 PM EST) work?(edited)
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:21 a.m.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
You sure you put the correct,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
Time convert,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
Cause it shows 23:00
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
For me
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
Just ensuring that we are on the same page,
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 11:22 a.m.
@Awesome
JaroCycleJaroCycle
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 12:21 p.m.
Corrected; the converter didn’t subtract an hour.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 12:21 p.m.
Alright,
AwesomeAwesome
@JaroCycle @Deleted User Does Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 4:00 p.m. (4 PM EST) work?(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 02:01 p.m.
@Deleted User ?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-24 02:02 p.m.
Yes it should. I want to note, I’m on-shift at the fire department that day. However our work period ends at 2 on Saturdays. The only reason there will be a pause, is if I have to go on a call. If that’s the case, it’s as simple as a 30 minute break in chat, until I return.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-24 02:02 p.m.
@Awesome
Deleted UserDeleted User
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 02:03 p.m.
Alright, no worries; it’ll be continuous, so y’all can just respond whenever you’re available, until we wrap up.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-24 02:04 p.m.
Yea, I figured it shouldn't be an issue
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 02:04 p.m.
Please make sure your witnesses, etc are ready, though.
cc: @JaroCycle
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yea, I figured it shouldn't be an issue
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 02:05 p.m.
Meant to reply to yours w/ the above.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:05 p.m.
Currently waiting on their responses
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-24 02:05 p.m.
I've got just my defendant who is gonna testify, and an expert
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-24 02:05 p.m.
they're both good
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:12 p.m.
My expert isn't available, other lay witnesses will appear
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:12 p.m.
He will try (my expert) to appear but unsure of it
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, no worries; it’ll be continuous, so y’all can just respond whenever you’re available, until we wrap up.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:18 p.m.
We are doing it over discord?
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:18 p.m.
If yes, then I will have all my witnesses available,
JaroCycleJaroCycle
We are doing it over discord?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-24 02:19 p.m.
Aff; there’s too many witnesses and exhibits for it to be in-game.
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-24 02:19 p.m.
Alright, great.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-25 04:08 p.m.
@JaroCycle @Deleted User Are y’all here.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-25 04:08 p.m.
?*
AwesomeAwesome
@JaroCycle @Deleted User Are y’all here.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-25 04:17 p.m.
I have been at a house fire for the past three and a half hours
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-25 04:17 p.m.
Gonna need to push to tomorrow
Deleted UserDeleted User
Gonna need to push to tomorrow
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-25 04:19 p.m.
Alright, tomorrow. Same time. Please ensure you’re there.

cc: @JaroCycle
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-25 04:20 p.m.
Alr
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-26 05:43 a.m.
Postponed until further notice, due to the resignation of JaroCycle from the Department of Justice.

cc: @Department of Justice / @Deleted User
(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
Postponed until further notice, due to the resignation of JaroCycle from the Department of Justice. cc: @Department of Justice / @Deleted User(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 07:26 a.m.
Dang, I scared them away
Deleted UserDeleted User
Dang, I scared them away
JaroCycle
JaroCycle 2025-01-26 08:08 a.m.
No you did not
JaroCycleJaroCycle
No you did not
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 08:09 a.m.
Sir you don’t work here no more
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 08:09 a.m.
I’ll take a McDouble with a large fry
AwesomeAwesome used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-01-26 09:04 a.m.
Case Modified
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Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 02:13 p.m.
Here we go again. Not my client being subjected to an extended trial

@Awesome
Deleted UserDeleted User
Here we go again. Not my client being subjected to an extended trial @Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-26 05:28 p.m.
The delay is administrative and logistical in nature. Your client will be fine.
AwesomeAwesome
The delay is administrative and logistical in nature. Your client will be fine.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 05:28 p.m.
I was making a joke
Deleted UserDeleted User
I was making a joke
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-26 05:29 p.m.
Kind of hard to tell, to be honest, especially given the recent activity in that area.
AwesomeAwesome
Kind of hard to tell, to be honest, especially given the recent activity in that area.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 05:29 p.m.
That’s what I was referring to
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-26 05:29 p.m.
It’s all good, discord jokes always land flat
AwesomeAwesome used
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clerkFlow Bot2025-01-30 05:38 p.m.
Case Modified
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Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-30 05:38 p.m.
@Reapers
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 05:40 p.m.
We still doing this upcoming Saturday
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-30 09:49 p.m.
@Awesome Your honor, if trial for this matter is set for tomorrow, the state has no objections
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-30 09:50 p.m.
However, I can not guarantee the presence of any of the witnesses on the list(edited)
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-30 09:51 p.m.
even so, the state is ready to proceed forward nonetheless and does not want to inconvenience the court any longer
ReapersReapers
@Awesome Your honor, if trial for this matter is set for tomorrow, the state has no objections
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-30 09:55 p.m.
It's not set for tomorrow.
AwesomeAwesome
It's not set for tomorrow.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-30 09:55 p.m.
Oh right, saturday?
ReapersReapers
Oh right, saturday?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-30 09:56 p.m.
No, I mean, I haven't rescheduled the matter yet.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-30 09:57 p.m.
Either way, there will be no more delay on the state’s part, we are ready to move forward whenever the court wishes
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clerkFlow Bot2025-01-30 10:03 p.m.
Case Modified
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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-01-30 10:03 p.m.
@Nationgreat
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ used
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clerkFlow Bot2025-01-30 10:05 p.m.
Case Modified
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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-01-30 10:05 p.m.
@Reapers
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-01-30 10:05 p.m.
oops
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-01-30 10:05 p.m.
u already added
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-30 11:29 p.m.
Oops, didn't see your NOA @Nationgreat.
AwesomeAwesome
Oops, didn't see your NOA @Nationgreat.
Nationgreat
Nationgreat 2025-01-31 03:24 a.m.
Mixed had suggested to be the counsel of record for this case so I will only be a substitution in case he can't make it to the trial.
NationgreatNationgreat
Mixed had suggested to be the counsel of record for this case so I will only be a substitution in case he can't make it to the trial.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:30 p.m.
Yall are putting an attorney with zero experience on a felony case?
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yall are putting an attorney with zero experience on a felony case?
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 12:33 p.m.
It sounds like you’re afraid and trying to back out once again like you did when you pawned off the case against your own university to the government
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:34 p.m.
This level of stupidity is exactly what I’m referring to. I can’t pawn off a case that, by statute, must be handled by SGO… sigh. Someone from DOJ come get their intern
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 12:35 p.m.
I’m not gonna respond to the inappropriate remark you just made, but I suggest you keep your attention on the facts of the case and not who’s handling it because that’s irrelevant here
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:36 p.m.
“I’m not gonna respond” … proceeds to respond
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yall are putting an attorney with zero experience on a felony case?
Nationgreat
Nationgreat 2025-01-31 12:36 p.m.
DOJ currently has sort of a human resources deficit, I'm not a particularly experienced attorney either, but discussing staffing decisions isn't a subject appropriate for a case channel.
NationgreatNationgreat
DOJ currently has sort of a human resources deficit, I'm not a particularly experienced attorney either, but discussing staffing decisions isn't a subject appropriate for a case ch...
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:37 p.m.
It actually is. The State should be ensuring that competent counsel are handling their cases, which is why I raised my concern
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 12:44 p.m.
It’s none of your business who the state brings and as for your concern, I’m a certified member of the bar and and as far as competency goes, your lack of professionalism is showing and I find it funny you’re one to talk
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:45 p.m.
It’s entirely my business who the state lists as counsel, given their habitual practice of prolonging criminal cases and further neglecting them.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:45 p.m.
If I must remind counsel, I have a duty to the interests of my client, not the ego of the State.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 12:46 p.m.
Yeah, that’s not happening any longer which must be frustrating to you, but this is not the place to vent sir
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 12:46 p.m.
In fact, I’ve mentioned before that the state is ready to proceed whenever
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 12:47 p.m.
The middle-school level gaslighting doesn’t work on me :🤷🏼‍♂️:
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-31 01:07 p.m.
@Deleted User @Reapers Enough. Debates are welcome; heated arguments, however, are not.
AwesomeAwesome
@Deleted User @Reapers Enough. Debates are welcome; heated arguments, however, are not.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-01-31 02:08 p.m.
Could we schedule this matter and proceed forward, your honor?
ReapersReapers
Could we schedule this matter and proceed forward, your honor?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-31 02:41 p.m.
I’ll reschedule it shortly.
steven2596
steven2596 2025-02-05 12:25 p.m.
hey is there an update in this i been waiting since mid november(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-05 12:25 p.m.
Currently waiting on scheduling
AwesomeAwesome
I’ll reschedule it shortly.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-05 12:47 p.m.
?
ReapersReapers
?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-05 07:41 p.m.
Apologies, does this Saturday work?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-05 08:11 p.m.
What time
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-05 08:11 p.m.
in EST
steven2596
steven2596 2025-02-05 09:12 p.m.
im working Saturday
steven2596
steven2596 2025-02-05 09:12 p.m.
I'm off tomorrow and friday then i'm working till the 14th
Deleted UserDeleted User
in EST
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-06 12:39 a.m.
Ok, screw it. We’ll just do continuous trial on Saturday, and y’all can respond when you’re available.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-06 12:39 a.m.
If the State is ready, that is. @Reapers
AwesomeAwesome
Ok, screw it. We’ll just do continuous trial on Saturday, and y’all can respond when you’re available.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-06 01:05 a.m.
What about the defendant saying he’s busy on Saturday?
ReapersReapers
What about the defendant saying he’s busy on Saturday?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-06 01:36 a.m.
It’s continuous, so he can respond to (and view) the proceedings whenever.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-06 03:29 a.m.
If that works for everyone*
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-06 05:20 a.m.
I’d prefer that
AwesomeAwesome
It’s continuous, so he can respond to (and view) the proceedings whenever.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-06 09:44 a.m.
Very well
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-06 09:44 a.m.
can the State’s witness be added to this channel so he may participate in the trial? His user is @dodged4abortions
AwesomeAwesome used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-06 09:47 a.m.
Case Modified
@Awesome has added @dodged4abortions to the case channel.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-06 09:48 a.m.
I believe I need my witness added too
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-06 09:48 a.m.
@icant
AwesomeAwesome used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-06 09:49 a.m.
Case Modified
@Awesome has added @icant to the case channel.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-06 09:49 a.m.
(Witnesses should not talk in this channel unless called upon when trial starts).
Toby
Toby 2025-02-06 11:20 a.m.
I will be present during this trial in a Clerk capacity to administer oaths.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-07 02:12 p.m.
@Awesome The state also requests that its second witness @okay_lil_buddy be added
AwesomeAwesome used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-08 05:36 a.m.
Case Modified
@Awesome has added @okay_lil_buddy to the case channel.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-08 05:36 a.m.
We're going to start continuous trial shortly.
AwesomeAwesome
We're going to start continuous trial shortly.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 05:34 a.m.
Alright. @Deleted User, @Reapers, @Nationgreat, are we all present?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 05:35 a.m.
@Toby @steven2596
Nationgreat
Nationgreat 2025-02-09 05:35 a.m.
I am present.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 05:37 a.m.
Once we’re all present, we’ll get under way.
AwesomeAwesome
Alright. @Deleted User, @Reapers, @Nationgreat, are we all present?
Toby
Toby 2025-02-09 06:47 a.m.
Yeah
steven2596
steven2596 2025-02-09 08:46 a.m.
Present
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 08:47 a.m.
I’m present, not available until this afternoon, at church
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 11:55 a.m.
Present
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 12:11 p.m.
I am here
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 12:17 p.m.
Alright. For the above-captioned matter, CR-0036-24, State of Mayflower v. StevenMedvedeva, the Court is now in session. The State may present its opening statement.

@Nationgreat @Reapers / @Deleted User // @Toby
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 12:54 p.m.
Your honor, the State has come here, on behalf of the people of Mayflower, to stop StevenMedvedeva from punishing our citizens for exercising their constitutional rights. The victim of this case was brutally attacked by a man using a bat, and this attack was lethal and could’ve resulted in the victim’s life. Fortunately, the victim was carrying a weapon on him, and he was able to use it to save his life. However, none of that mattered anyway, because the defendant strolled in what looks to be like not even a government issued car, and proceeded to shoot the victim dead without properly assessing the situation as what any law enforcement officer is expected to do. This case is not just a case about a police officer breaking his oath and shooting a victim dead when he should not have done so, it’s a case about upholding the constitution and protecting the second amendment of our nation.(edited)
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 12:56 p.m.
Prosecution rests, your honor. @Awesome
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:00 p.m.
Rests?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:00 p.m.
That's your entire case?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:00 p.m.
Okay, in that case
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:00 p.m.
I move for a directed verdict, your honor
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:01 p.m.
No I mean the opening statement, I’ve never done a discord trial so I’m not sure how to signal this
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:01 p.m.
Prosecution yields actually
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
Resting your case means you have finished the presentation of your evidence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
There you go
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
"Thank you," or "we yield," would be the way to do it..
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
Alright, does the defense wish to present an opening statement?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
I for real got a chuckle out of tht
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
that
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, does the defense wish to present an opening statement?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:02 p.m.
Yeah I'll keep it brief
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:13 p.m.
The State has frivolously charged Officer StevenMedvedeva with Voluntary Manslaughter. Their supposition, is that this officer wrongfully exercised lethal force against an individual who was actively discharging their shotgun at another person; which ultimately resulted in their death. They are attempting to suggest to this court that it should disregard decades of settled law on these types of matters, in order to advance an agenda of ostracizing keepers of the peace.

The State has not submitted any evidence, nor can they show, that Officer Medvedeva had any way of knowing the true intentions of the person who ultimately killed the bystander on the sidewalk. Ultimately, whether the original shooting was justified or not is not relevant. The State has the burden to prove that the Defendant acted unreasonably, or in disregard to their lawful duties. They cannot satisfy this burden.

We would reference one of many previous cases regarding these types of incidents, Anderson v. Russell 247 F.3d 125 (4th Cir. 2001);

"[the] evidence conclusively establishe[d] that [the officer] reasonably perceived" the Plaintiff was armed and that a "split-second decision to use deadly force against [the plaintiff] was reasonable in light of [the officer's] well-founded, though mistaken, belief that [the plaintiff] was reaching for a handgun. Thus, [the officer's] use of force does not constitute a Fourth Amendment violation."

This case has been cited roughly 214 times in preceding criminal cases.

The entirety of the presented exhibits supports only one logical conclusion. The officer witnessed an active shooting, and the eventual killing of another person; prompting them to take appropriate action. Thanks.

cc: @Awesome @Reapers
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:17 p.m.
Alright. The State may call its first witness.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:18 p.m.
@Reapers @Nationgreat / @Deleted User // @Toby
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:20 p.m.
The State calls its first witness to the stand, Mr. Dima @dodged4abortions
Toby
Toby 2025-02-09 01:22 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Hello, would you like to take the religious or non-religous oath?
TobyToby
@dodged4abortions Hello, would you like to take the religious or non-religous oath?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 01:24 p.m.
Your honor, non-religous oath(edited)
Toby
Toby 2025-02-09 01:26 p.m.
@dodged4abortions
Do you affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
TobyToby
@dodged4abortions Do you affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 01:26 p.m.
yes.
Toby
Toby 2025-02-09 01:26 p.m.
Great, all yours @Reapers
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:27 p.m.
Can we pause for 10 minutes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:28 p.m.
I gotta run a very quick errand and I wanna be able to object as needed
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:28 p.m.
Alright. We’ll recess for ten minutes.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:28 p.m.
(I'm gonna be unavailable at 2 until 2:30 and then again at 4:30)(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
Alright. We’ll recess for ten minutes.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:43 p.m.
May I proceed with the witness?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:49 p.m.
Are we good to resume? @Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:49 p.m.
Yeah, I'm almost done with what I'm doing. I'd just ask to be given an opportunity to object before the witness answers
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yeah, I'm almost done with what I'm doing. I'd just ask to be given an opportunity to object before the witness answers
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:50 p.m.
Alright. You’ll have two minutes to object before the witness is allowed to answer.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:50 p.m.
That's fine with me
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:50 p.m.
@Reapers
AwesomeAwesome
@Reapers
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:52 p.m.
I think it’s best if we just extend the recess to 2:30 in this case, tactical is not yet ready and I will be unavailable in 8 minutes so I might not have time to finish with the witness
ReapersReapers
I think it’s best if we just extend the recess to 2:30 in this case, tactical is not yet ready and I will be unavailable in 8 minutes so I might not have time to finish with the wi...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:52 p.m.
What’s your timezone?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:52 p.m.
I'm ready
ReapersReapers
I think it’s best if we just extend the recess to 2:30 in this case, tactical is not yet ready and I will be unavailable in 8 minutes so I might not have time to finish with the wi...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:53 p.m.
Actually, just proceed, and if we need to recess we can recess part-way through.
AwesomeAwesome
What’s your timezone?
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:54 p.m.
EST
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:55 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, you are a resident of the State and a witness in this incident, and you were the one who captured and submitted the video evidence in this case against StevenMedvedeva, correct?
ReapersReapers
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, you are a resident of the State and a witness in this incident, and you were the one who captured and submitted the video evidence in this case agai...
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 01:56 p.m.
Yes.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:56 p.m.
I would note for counsel
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:56 p.m.
That's a compound question
dodged4abortionsdodged4abortions
Yes.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:57 p.m.
Can you give 2 answers for the questions I asked for opposing counsel?
ReapersReapers
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, you are a resident of the State and a witness in this incident, and you were the one who captured and submitted the video evidence in this case agai...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 01:57 p.m.
Struck. Compound.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:57 p.m.
Mr. Dima, you are a resident of Mayflower, correct?
ReapersReapers
Mr. Dima, you are a resident of Mayflower, correct?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 01:57 p.m.
Yes I am
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 01:58 p.m.
You are a witness in the incident which led us all here today, correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:58 p.m.
Objection, no foundation to the question
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:59 p.m.
Date? Reference?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 01:59 p.m.
Which incident?
ReapersReapers
You are a witness in the incident which led us all here today, correct?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 02:00 p.m.
Yes, I am.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:00 p.m.
this is gonna be a long trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:00 p.m.
I can already tell
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 02:00 p.m.
I'm sorry for response delays.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
The incident that happened on or about the 8th September of 2024 where law enforcement officer StevenMedvedeva shot and killed Mr. @okay_lil_buddy , correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
There is a pending objection....
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
why are you continuing to ask questions
ReapersReapers
The incident that happened on or about the 8th September of 2024 where law enforcement officer StevenMedvedeva shot and killed Mr. @okay_lil_buddy , correct?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
Incorrect. I was the victim(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
@Awesome Your honor..
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:01 p.m.
Oh my lord
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:03 p.m.
Your honor, I apologize, I’m in a rush and I will not be able to continue until I’m back at 2:30
Deleted UserDeleted User
Objection, no foundation to the question
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:04 p.m.
Sustained, but on other grounds: it’s ambiguous. Counsel, stop asking questions when there’s a pending objection.
ReapersReapers
Your honor, I apologize, I’m in a rush and I will not be able to continue until I’m back at 2:30
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:05 p.m.
Ok. We’ll recess until 2:30 EST.
ReapersReapers
The incident that happened on or about the 8th September of 2024 where law enforcement officer StevenMedvedeva shot and killed Mr. @okay_lil_buddy , correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:05 p.m.
Just for the record, we object to this question as well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:05 p.m.
but I figured the court assumed that as well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:05 p.m.
@Awesome
ReapersReapers
The incident that happened on or about the 8th September of 2024 where law enforcement officer StevenMedvedeva shot and killed Mr. @okay_lil_buddy , correct?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:06 p.m.
Struck.
AwesomeAwesome
Struck.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:07 p.m.
:👍:
AwesomeAwesome
Ok. We’ll recess until 2:30 EST.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:07 p.m.
Can the court re-ping at 2:30 to resume, please
Deleted UserDeleted User
Can the court re-ping at 2:30 to resume, please
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:07 p.m.
Sure.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:07 p.m.
Thanks
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:30 p.m.
Are we ready to resume?

@Reapers @Nationgreat / @Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:30 p.m.
:👍🏻:
Nationgreat
Nationgreat 2025-02-09 02:32 p.m.
I'm present but I will only take over in case Mixed is unavailable to continue.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:32 p.m.
Supposedly he was coming back
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:32 p.m.
@Reapers awake?
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:36 p.m.
I am here now
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:36 p.m.
Wonderful
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:37 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, you are the victim in the incident that happened on the 8th September of 2024, correct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:37 p.m.
Objection
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:38 p.m.
Leading
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:38 p.m.
Sustained.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:39 p.m.
Your Honor, may I present exhibit A to the victim?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:39 p.m.
You haven't established
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:39 p.m.
the witnesses relevance to the case yet
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:40 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, can you state for the record why you have been called to testify today?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:40 p.m.
Objection, calls for a narrative
ReapersReapers
@dodged4abortions Mr. Dima, can you state for the record why you have been called to testify today?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:41 p.m.
Counsel, where are you going with this?
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:42 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Please state for the record what were you doing at the scene of the incident that happened on the 8th September of 2024
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:42 p.m.
Objection, again..
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:42 p.m.
You haven't established he was there
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:43 p.m.
Sustained. No foundation.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:43 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Were you at the scene of the incident that happened on the 8th September of 2024?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:43 p.m.
Mmmmmmmmmmm
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:43 p.m.
Objection
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:43 p.m.
What incident?
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:44 p.m.
The incident where Mr. StevenMedvedeva allegedly shot and killed @dodged4abortions on the 8th of September
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:44 p.m.
Now counsel is testifying
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:45 p.m.
I'm gonna give you a hint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:45 p.m.
You filed discovery with a list of names on it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:45 p.m.
let's start with that
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:45 p.m.
Your Honor, he asked for me to precise the incident and I did
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:45 p.m.
It was rhetorical
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
Your honor, if counsel can't establish a foundation to begin asking questions to this witness, I'm gonna ask that he be excused. @Awesome
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
@Awesome Prosecution requests to show exhibit A to witness @dodged4abortions
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
We object
AwesomeAwesome used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
Case Modified
@Awesome has added @Nicklaus to the case channel.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
You haven't established a foundation to ask him questions
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
Click to see command.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:46 p.m.
Please file a NOA. @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:47 p.m.
The Solicitor General is prosecuting a case?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:47 p.m.
Is that even allowed
AwesomeAwesome
Please file a NOA. @Nicklaus
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 02:47 p.m.
can I do verbally. I’m not on pc
ReapersReapers
@Awesome Prosecution requests to show exhibit A to witness @dodged4abortions
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 02:47 p.m.
Can we get a ruling on this? @Awesome
NicklausNicklaus
can I do verbally. I’m not on pc
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:47 p.m.
Sure.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Is that even allowed
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:48 p.m.
He’s counsel for the State; what matters he may appear in are determined by DOJ regulations, as far as I’m aware.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 02:48 p.m.
Please take notice that Nicklaus_s, Solicitor General, appears in this matter as counsel for Plaintiff State of Mayflower.
AwesomeAwesome
He’s counsel for the State; what matters he may appear in are determined by DOJ regulations, as far as I’m aware.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
I'm trying to review the state code, but I think you're right
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
It seems mildly odd, but I'm happy to get this thing moving
Deleted UserDeleted User
It seems mildly odd, but I'm happy to get this thing moving
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
Indeed.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
Anyways, let’s get back on track.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
We will withdraw all pending questions
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
May we recess for 5 minutes
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:49 p.m.
Granted.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:50 p.m.
Just for clarification
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:50 p.m.
is the Solicitor General now the first chair in this prosecution, co counsel, divine intervention, psychic interpretation for Mr. Reaper, and/or an emotional support therapist?(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:50 p.m.
just trying to clarify the court record
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:57 p.m.
@Awesome @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:57 p.m.
we ready?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 02:57 p.m.
I am. Not sure if the State is.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 02:58 p.m.
@Nicklaus I'm amendable to the State dropping the charges
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 03:01 p.m.
@dodged4abortions Were you ingame at Clark County on the 8th of September of 2024?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:01 p.m.
I'm confused
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
So am I.
Reapers
Reapers 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
I'm still counsel of record here and still first chair
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
Then-
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
wa-
ReapersReapers
@dodged4abortions Were you ingame at Clark County on the 8th of September of 2024?
dodged4abortions
dodged4abortions 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
No, I wasn't, this incident happened on 8th nov. of 2024. Sorry for not stating this earlier.(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:02 p.m.
throws legal papers into the air in frustration
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:03 p.m.
We’re adjourned until the State sorts out whatever this is.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:03 p.m.
@Awesome Can I move for a mistrial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:03 p.m.
or is that too much of a clown on this guy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:06 p.m.
We officially move for a mistrial, citing prosecutorial incompetence.

I'd also note that Mr. Reaper has been placed on Administrative Leave within the Department of Justice.

Lastly, I will be contacting the State Bar Association to file an ethics complaint.

cc: @Awesome
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:19 p.m.
@Awesome
Deleted UserDeleted User
We officially move for a mistrial, citing prosecutorial incompetence. I'd also note that Mr. Reaper has been placed on Administrative Leave within the Department of Justice. La...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:20 p.m.
I’ll wait for the State’s response.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:20 p.m.
Welllllll
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:20 p.m.
The state is currently on a trip to DOJ gulag
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:20 p.m.
@Nicklaus you’re up
AwesomeAwesome used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-09 03:22 p.m.
Case Modified
@Awesome has added @ryan to the case channel.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:22 p.m.
Hi we'll consent to a mistrial with the court noting that this was done with the consent of the defense too
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:22 p.m.
That means we'll retry him
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
How about this
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
If the state is ready to proceed
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
WITH COMPETENT COUNSEL
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
Counsel
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
You wanted a mistrial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
We've consented
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
then I’ll just note the glaring negligence
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
That's that
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
We've consented
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
I didn’t know they were going to supply competent counsel
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
A do over will be good for all
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
I’m ready to proceed, I’ll withdraw my motion
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:23 p.m.
I am not particularly familiar so id need time anyway
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Well, ok.. then.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
I’ll object then
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
The state has gone through
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Okay what do you want
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Three prosecutors
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Yes
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
So mistrial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
U wanted it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
I’m asking for a dismissal
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Actually
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
Not a mistrial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:24 p.m.
We'd like a proper pdf
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Best I can do is a written motion with case law in discord
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Mama is on phone
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
As am i
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Say we have 24 hours to duke this out?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Nah we can has this out
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Hash
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
This case has been delayed far too long
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
My client has rights
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
State has the burden
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:25 p.m.
Give me 10 minutes to prepare my arguments
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:28 p.m.
That wont work for me
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:28 p.m.
I am on break
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-09 03:28 p.m.
What does the court wanna do
Deleted UserDeleted User
Not a mistrial
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:30 p.m.
Alright, the defense can submit a written motion, detailing particular grounds therefor.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:30 p.m.
The State will then have forty-eight (48) hours to respond.
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, the defense can submit a written motion, detailing particular grounds therefor.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:31 p.m.
Is it chill if I send on discord
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:31 p.m.
I ain't got time to format a doc
Deleted UserDeleted User
I ain't got time to format a doc
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:32 p.m.
I mean, a motion to dismiss is a motion to dismiss. For almost anything else, I’d accept verbal/typed.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:32 p.m.
Oh bet
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:32 p.m.
most judges be stingy and make you write it on a doc
Deleted UserDeleted User
most judges be stingy and make you write it on a doc
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:33 p.m.
Because it’s a MTD, it needs to be on a doc; for literally anything else, I couldn’t rlly care.
AwesomeAwesome
Because it’s a MTD, it needs to be on a doc; for literally anything else, I couldn’t rlly care.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:34 p.m.
Is that local rules, or your rules? Just trying to clarify
Deleted UserDeleted User
Is that local rules, or your rules? Just trying to clarify
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:34 p.m.
Court has discretion, and if you’re motioning for a dismissal, high probability it gets appealed either way.
AwesomeAwesome
Court has discretion, and if you’re motioning for a dismissal, high probability it gets appealed either way.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:35 p.m.
That's fair,
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:35 p.m.
I’d rather there’s a paper record for stuff that has a high probability of being appealed.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:35 p.m.
currently talking with the state to discuss some stuff
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-09 03:35 p.m.
that’s the tldr.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-09 03:35 p.m.
Nah, it's fine
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:05 p.m.
@Awesome supposedly the state is withdrawing the mtd
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:06 p.m.
It’s the defense
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:06 p.m.
And when I’m available
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:06 p.m.
I’ll address some stuff
Deleted UserDeleted User
It’s the defense
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:11 p.m.
Correct sorry
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:11 p.m.
It's unusual for us to switch sides like this
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:39 p.m.
@Awesome idk how u wanna play this but we'd like to amend the charges and introduce new evidence
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:39 p.m.
that'd be ideal for us but idk how u feel abt that
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
that'd be ideal for us but idk how u feel abt that
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
Does the defense have any objections to this?

cc: @Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
Yes of course h do
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
I
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
This is outrageous
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
We are literally in opening statements
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:42 p.m.
Actually
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:43 p.m.
we're passed that
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:43 p.m.
the prosecutor has been fired and i am left with this mess to clean up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:43 p.m.
That’s not the defendants burden
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:43 p.m.
It’s clear negligence
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:43 p.m.
I would suggest a mistrial based on there being a manifest necessity
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:44 p.m.
I don't think there are acceptable alternatives
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:44 p.m.
No. We didn’t object to the charge or the submitted evidence.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:44 p.m.
You changed prosecutors, not allegations
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:44 p.m.
You don’t have standing to end this trial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:44 p.m.
You said there has been negligence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:45 p.m.
And yet I’m not filing for dismissal because the negligent prosecutor no longer is on the case
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:45 p.m.
You cannot continue to keep my client in limbo through your inability to do y’all’s only job; prosecuting cases
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:45 p.m.
Either drop the charges, or proceed
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:45 p.m.
I am able of doing it, the past two have not
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:46 p.m.
The allegations will not sufficiently change, there will not be a major piece of new evidence, only some evidence to clarify potential issues and some new witnesses to ensure proper opinion is present
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:46 p.m.
This is not proper
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:46 p.m.
That's not your determination to make.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
They’re trying to commit double jeopardy by giving a fluffy analysis of what they want to do
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
They realized the charges don’t fit
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
And they’re gonna to subvert this court to get different ones
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
Oh no, they fit; but there's a new charge we'd like to add
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
No, we are at trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
Opening statements have already been made
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
When has been abridged by prosecutorial negligence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:47 p.m.
You have no case law to support this
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
When has been abridged by prosecutorial negligence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:48 p.m.
If you admit prosecutorial negligence we get dismissal with prejudice.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:48 p.m.
So make up your mind
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:48 p.m.
That’s the standard
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:48 p.m.
Proof?
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:50 p.m.
Alright, enough. I can’t allow amendment to the CI over the defense’s objection, per Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 7(5)(3), particularly if there is apparent prejudice to the “substantial rights of the defendant.”(edited)
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:50 p.m.
We'll have it submitted by end of day tomorrow
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:50 p.m.
I anticipate the AOPC will take just a second
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, enough. I can’t allow amendment to the CI over the defense’s objection, per Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 7(5)(3), particularly if there is apparent prejudice to the “substantial rig...(edited)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:51 p.m.
It says, unequivocally, that “[a]n indictment or information may not be amended over the defendant's objection as to form or substance if the amended information charges the defendant with an additional or different offense or if the substantial rights of the defendant are prejudiced.”
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:51 p.m.
Oh wait I misread
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:51 p.m.
Oopsie
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, enough. I can’t allow amendment to the CI over the defense’s objection, per Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 7(5)(3), particularly if there is apparent prejudice to the “substantial rig...(edited)
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
What substantial rights, your honor?
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
I would like it fully stated on the record.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
Have we lost our minds
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
Ryan
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 7(5)(2) also states that “[a] matter of form or substance in an indictment or information may also be amended after the trial on the merits commences if the defendant does not object.”(edited)
Deleted UserDeleted User
Have we lost our minds
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
I simply want it on the record.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
That's all
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
Ryan this is common law
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:52 p.m.
Explicitly on the record!
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
That's all I ask
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
No
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
This is vexatious
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
How? I literally want clarification on a ruling.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
You are vexatious.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:53 p.m.
He cited the rule three times
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:54 p.m.
This is tung and cheek
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:54 p.m.
tongue*
AwesomeAwesome
Alright, enough. I can’t allow amendment to the CI over the defense’s objection, per Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 7(5)(3), particularly if there is apparent prejudice to the “substantial rig...(edited)
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:54 p.m.
He cited the second part, I'd simply ask which rights he implicated.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:54 p.m.
I mean, it’s a moot point; you aren’t allowed to amend the CI after trial on the merits commences, unless “the defendant does not object.”
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:55 p.m.
I am aware, I'd still like clarification for the purposes of training and education of new prosecutors.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:55 p.m.
Why can’t the DOJ just hire prosecutors who know the law
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:55 p.m.
We are on number three
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:55 p.m.
Four, I think
Deleted UserDeleted User
Why can’t the DOJ just hire prosecutors who know the law
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:56 p.m.
This is roblox, that's like finding a needle in a haystack
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:56 p.m.
It's not challenging to explain the specific substantive right that was violated.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:56 p.m.
Or would be prejudiced, rather
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
It’s not my job to teach lawyers how to be lawyers
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
I’m leaving it at that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
I’d like us to set a time to resume trial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
Thank God I am not asking you, silly.
Deleted UserDeleted User
I’d like us to set a time to resume trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
cc: @Awesome
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
At this point the state is grandstanding
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:57 p.m.
I'm not opposed to scheduling, counselor; I would like the requested clarification
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:58 p.m.
This is all.
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
I am aware, I'd still like clarification for the purposes of training and education of new prosecutors.
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 02:59 p.m.
Hm. I don’t really see the harm in it, then.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 02:59 p.m.
We're not trying to grandstand. If I can isolate a specific right, I can pass that on to other prosecutors to ensure higher quality prosecution; it's very intuitive
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 03:01 p.m.
@Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:02 p.m.
I’ll be available this evening
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:02 p.m.
I’m at work
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:02 p.m.
What do you want from me
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:02 p.m.
To explain the constitution to the prosecutions
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:02 p.m.
?
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:03 p.m.
No one is asking you to do this.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:03 p.m.
I am asking the presiding judge
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:03 p.m.
Where is the confusion here
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
I am asking the presiding judge
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 03:05 p.m.
. I said apparent, because that is my reading of the defense’s argument.
Deleted UserDeleted User
They’re trying to commit double jeopardy by giving a fluffy analysis of what they want to do
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 03:05 p.m.
The last few sentences from here.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:06 p.m.
Oh
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:06 p.m.
Thank you for the clarification
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:06 p.m.
I don’t even have to show a constitutional right violation, per the rules. If I object, he can’t amend. Unless I’m reading the rules wrong,
Deleted UserDeleted User
I don’t even have to show a constitutional right violation, per the rules. If I object, he can’t amend. Unless I’m reading the rules wrong,
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:06 p.m.
Correct, but I was assuming the ruling was made on the second part
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
That was the clarification I sought
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
Okay well I’m not needlessly preparing a list of all the violations an amendment to the CI would incur; and the list would be long
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
Per the rules you can’t
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
Let’s schedule a time to finish trial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
Case closed.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Let’s schedule a time to finish trial
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:07 p.m.
Continuous would work best
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
I have our State debate tournament coming up this weekend
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
I can resume around 6 tonight
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
In a continuous manner?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
Yes
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
That would be amicable
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:08 p.m.
@Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 03:26 p.m.
Ok. If y’all are happy w/ that, so am I.(edited)
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:30 p.m.
@Awesome I've been in talks w/ the administration and I am not convinced that this case is worth prosecuting. They have greenlit me to dismiss this case; I would've done this sooner, but I wanted to ensure I was not stepping on anyone's toes
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:30 p.m.
The State would like to drop this
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-10 03:30 p.m.
Apologies for the waste of resources/time
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
Apologies for the waste of resources/time
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-10 03:40 p.m.
Alrighty.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 06:39 p.m.
@Awesome when could we expect the court to vacate this matter
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-11 10:54 a.m.
MINUTE ORDER GRANTING NOLLE PROSEQUI

The Court notes that the State has filed nolle prosequi after trial has already commenced. IT IS, THEREFORE, ORDERED that this matter be, and it hereby is, DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE and STRICKEN from the active docket of the Court.

/s/ AwesomePIays
Mayflower District Judge

cc: @ryan / @Deleted User @steven2596 / @Prothonotary's Office
steven2596
steven2596 2025-02-11 10:55 a.m.
thank you your honour
AwesomeAwesome
MINUTE ORDER GRANTING NOLLE PROSEQUI The Court notes that the State has filed nolle prosequi after trial has already commenced. IT IS, THEREFORE, ORDERED that this mat...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-11 10:56 a.m.
Dismissal is w/ prejudice because trial had already commenced. ^
Awesome
Awesome 2025-02-11 10:57 a.m.
@Nicklaus @Nationgreat, forgot to cc ya'll.
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